tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post8853160516005907047..comments2024-03-29T10:02:55.374+00:00Comments on Nigeness: How Paleoanthropology WorksNigehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-15789026430264617252009-09-11T11:58:49.609+01:002009-09-11T11:58:49.609+01:00Just two belated comments to make.
All you need t...Just two belated comments to make.<br /><br />All you need to know about the rationale for treks can be found in Watership Down.<br /><br />I won't hear a word said against the delightful Dr Roberts. She is an ornament to our screens and I put my gallant sword at her service. And just think, without the idea of the trek we wouldn't have seen her in all those delightful beach locations.Gareth Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058241057385364459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-36669670003572222392009-09-10T22:26:00.147+01:002009-09-10T22:26:00.147+01:00Nige:
Serves you right for musing: "I someti...Nige:<br /><br />Serves you right for musing: "I sometimes wonder where the butterflies came from."<br /><br />No blogger is safe from a religion/science hijack. The only defence is to divert to anti-Americanism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-31512582090861004532009-09-10T20:00:09.413+01:002009-09-10T20:00:09.413+01:00I suppose the thing for the Wise Skeptic is to pic...I suppose the thing for the Wise Skeptic is to pick your scoffs judiciously, lest you be taken for a Crank.<br /><br />If you just blanketscoff, you're just as much a fanatic as those you claim to Skept about.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-1985962237670297002009-09-10T18:25:52.942+01:002009-09-10T18:25:52.942+01:00Wise words Malty - and welcome back, if I haven...Wise words Malty - and welcome back, if I haven't already said so - and thanks, Brit and Peter and everyone, for upping my comment count a treat - I'd have joined in but for an all-day NigeCorp workstorm. <br />I believe Peter Simple had a character who was convinced the Welsh were Aztecs who'd made their way across the Atlantic in stone canoes...Nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-1549141994396602542009-09-10T17:36:31.326+01:002009-09-10T17:36:31.326+01:00Once commented that a woman had a great spread, ac...Once commented that a woman had a great spread, actually I meant the table, not her spacial occupancy, invites were somewhat sparse thereafter.<br />How did a bunch of Georgean stuff turn into yet another, we wuz/wuznot gunk, at one time gripe?<br />Personally I believe bugger all unless that bloke in the daft sweaters from time team tells me it's so.<br /><br />Or Bill Oddie.maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-16926058139790530242009-09-10T17:03:32.490+01:002009-09-10T17:03:32.490+01:00Brit, weren't you just this week joining the c...Brit, weren't you just this week joining the chorus against those who equate scepticism with denialism? Of course it is a reasonable theory. Astrology and the four humours were also reasonable theories, and, in fact, I'm not convinced they have been as 100% debunked as the boffins say. But we aren't being faced by diffident experts cautiously offering up reasonable theories. We're faced with screechers yelling: "Evolution is a fact, you stupid man!". I find that both insulting and a grand opening for humour as their neurotic compulsion to fill out the narrative leads them to ever-higher levels of implausability and absurdity.<br /><br />And let's not forget that the tale of "The Great Spread" (See, I can compromise) is not a history of conscious, intentional exploration, settlement and discovery, but of the physical evolution of <i>homo sapiens</i> as a result of unconscious survival imperatives. It's not meant to explain how and why we discovered farming and swords, but rather why some of us have blue eyes or oriental features.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-10258032595325157152009-09-10T16:08:22.243+01:002009-09-10T16:08:22.243+01:00Darwinism explains English poetry = absurd overstr...Darwinism explains English poetry = absurd overstretch.<br /><br />Homo sapiens originated in Africa = reasonable theory.<br /><br />You've got to give and take <i>a bit</i> Peter.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-32301020618844332062009-09-10T15:54:42.018+01:002009-09-10T15:54:42.018+01:00And after after after all, look at how America was...<i>And after after after all, look at how America was populated from the East coast westwards in virtually no time at all.</i><br /><br />Uh, Brit, we are talking about the story of human biological evolution, are we not? Survival imperatives 'n adaptations 'n stuff. I'm not sure the covered wagons that went down the Oregon Trail count as Darwinism-in-action. Although, as we both know folks who insist Darwinism explains English poetry and Corvette design, maybe they do.<br /><br />But yeah, there are lots of people all over the world, some moving, some not, some trekking, some spreading and we're talking about huge swaths of time, so I guess the story must be true. Gosh, I really do love science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-56402073836457172982009-09-10T15:40:07.966+01:002009-09-10T15:40:07.966+01:00Well, I've enjoyed this conversation. Cheers g...Well, I've enjoyed this conversation. Cheers guys!Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-27728673373683102612009-09-10T15:39:14.666+01:002009-09-10T15:39:14.666+01:00Mind you, Okies and New Yorkers really are differe...Mind you, Okies and New Yorkers really are different species.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-26685638832059970722009-09-10T15:31:12.399+01:002009-09-10T15:31:12.399+01:00And after after after all, look at how America was...And after after after all, look at how America was populated from the East coast westwards in virtually no time at all.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-5801150010884164362009-09-10T15:01:10.278+01:002009-09-10T15:01:10.278+01:00And after all, even if you believe in Adam and Eve...And after all, even if you believe in Adam and Eve, there would have to be some kind of a spread from wherever they were (unless you thought that africans and europeans were different species, I suppose, in which case you'd be in all kinds of hot water.)Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-3933000898124960912009-09-10T14:43:54.531+01:002009-09-10T14:43:54.531+01:00There are, after all, people in Africa.There are, after all, people in Africa.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-17202381459969517112009-09-10T14:42:30.255+01:002009-09-10T14:42:30.255+01:00Well the idea is that it was a spread rather than ...Well the idea is that it was a spread rather than a trek.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-70334545742777405782009-09-10T14:37:42.934+01:002009-09-10T14:37:42.934+01:00Nige/Brit, I haven't been able to find it on Y...Nige/Brit, I haven't been able to find it on YouTube, but Monty Python once did a screamingly funny send-up of Thor Heyerdahl that featured scientists trying to discover the route a dumpy middle class couple from Slough took for a picnic and the professional controversy that emerged over which motorways they used. Any help would be greatly appreciated. <br /><br />I could go on for ages about how implausible it all seems when one actually tries to imagine how it happened. Objections abound, but the most striking one is why none of them, despite being confronted by mountains, starvation, oceans, frigid conditions, etc. ever appear to have used their heads and turned back to that paleontological Eden known as a the savaanah. Were angels guarding the gate or something? Nope, they just sat on their butts and waited patiently for survival adaptations to take hold. Talk about faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-13386126128170221952009-09-10T12:59:36.615+01:002009-09-10T12:59:36.615+01:00I always knew you two would get along.I always knew you two would get along.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-5614605557322872962009-09-10T12:47:08.718+01:002009-09-10T12:47:08.718+01:00Hear hear Peter - BBC TV even sent that tiresome &...Hear hear Peter - BBC TV even sent that tiresome 'Dr Alice Roberts' round the world 'in the footsteps' of these humanoids emerging from Africa, as it was a travelogue! The absurdity was apparent at every turn, but of course no one said so...Nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-12982009413033828672009-09-10T12:44:27.695+01:002009-09-10T12:44:27.695+01:00Apologies if it was here or on Bryan's site th...Apologies if it was here or on Bryan's site that I first saw it, but this recalls one of the best scientific headlines ever: "Mankind Older Than Previously Believed".<br /><br />For Darwinist-torturers, there are few things more fun than cross-examining on what I call "The Great Trek" out of East Africa. It is holy writ for the faithful, but it is a most fantastic tale, redolent of Genesis and a lot of other creation myths. How much is true I have no idea, but the belief is so ingrained that it seems to rest as solidly as cement pylons on a handful of very widely dispersed skulls and the absence of a coherent alternative explanation. These skulls are like the carefully guarded sacred relics in medieval cathedrals and monasteries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-76112709246374742402009-09-10T10:33:14.527+01:002009-09-10T10:33:14.527+01:00Or, less politely<a href="http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1623#comic" rel="nofollow">Or, less politely</a>Kevnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-55570884404727189502009-09-10T10:29:50.455+01:002009-09-10T10:29:50.455+01:00From the scientists point of view<a href="http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174" rel="nofollow">From the scientists point of view</a>Kevnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-34748506480784800252009-09-10T10:24:01.155+01:002009-09-10T10:24:01.155+01:00Yes, it's really about "How News Works&qu...Yes, it's really about "How News Works".Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-48096613465565750302009-09-10T10:11:52.745+01:002009-09-10T10:11:52.745+01:00Thanks Dave - that compounds the idiocy of the who...Thanks Dave - that compounds the idiocy of the whole thing.Nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2526736757651414061.post-84477050112637435142009-09-09T19:53:15.638+01:002009-09-09T19:53:15.638+01:00Henry Gee points out that this is Not So Much '...Henry Gee points out that this is <a href="http://network.nature.com/people/henrygee/blog/2009/09/09/not-so-much-news-as-olds" rel="nofollow">Not So Much 'News' as 'Olds'</a>.Dave Lullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01053227199985293516noreply@blogger.com