Wednesday 14 October 2009

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The infantilising of our culture proceeds apace. This morning that august broadcasting institution the Today programme devoted an inordinate length of peak listening time to a free commercial for the latest Roald Dahl adaptation, an animation of Fantastic Mr Fox. Dahl was a nasty overgrown child whose nasty stories have sadly proved enduringly popular with children and, worse, adults alike - many of them no doubt reared in their formative years on Dahl's stories. Happily my own children proved resistant to Dahl's charms, despite attending a primary school where there was almost nothing else on the literary menu - but most succumbed and still succumb all too easily, with heaven knows what effects. It's a hard (not to say impossible) case to stand up, but I do suspect that teachers pushing the works of Dahl might have played some small part in the wave of indiscipline, disrespect and moral nihilism that engulfed the country over the past couple of decades. And now adults and children alike are queuing up for more, as they queued up for Harry Potter and The Hobbit and street-urchin clothing and a thousand other 'childish things' - and the Today programme, it seems, is right behind them.


  1. My jaw has dropped. How can you possibly object to James and the Giant Peach? Sure, it contains some nasty characters, but the story itself is no more "nasty" than a great many other children's stories where kids end up sticking it to the teachers/grown ups. Do I detect a whiff of anti-populist snobbery here?

  2. O, count me with Ms. King on this. I spotted your comment on my RSS feed and was shocked enough to drop in to check it out.

  3. Not snobbery Sophie - I just deeply dislike Dahl. Not all his stories are as nasty as, say, The Witches, but there's always an undertow, I feel...

  4. I see it in two distinctly seperate ways:

    from a child's point of view, I think it's actually unchildish and rather good for children to be confronted with the dark and unpleasant side of life, I would hate it for any child of mine to be presented with only 'yeah peace and love and harmony' messages 24 hours a day

    From an adults point of view, the Today programme is on a slippery slide right to moronsville. I can no longer listen to it as it concerns itself increasingly with childish things and fripperies.

  5. Sorry Nige, I'm with Sophie too. Danny the Champion of the World was my fave. Fantastic Mr Fox is by the terrific Wes Anderson, so it should be good.

  6. Does it really matter what Roald Dahl was like? There's a long and ahem dishonourable tradition of writers and artists who were questionable characters, but history is the judge of their work and I don't think history really cares what they were like. It's not good news if the Today programme is dumbing down but not a surprise either, I suppose.

    I wonder if we really know what childhood is any more. Gross commercial pressures and modern marketing techniques contrive to make infants of us all. That combination is surely one of the keys to the modern high street. Perhaps obesity - snacks, sweeties, treats, unrestrained appetite - is the sign of a childish culture.

  7. Also he's no nastier than the Brothers Grimm etc. Though he is much funnier.

  8. Yes Nige there is, of course, an undertow in most of his books and yes, it is dark and rather mysterious. Would never have made the link between the feral nihilism of our fractured youths, and their teachers unloading Danny, or The Witches on them. In an age when children from a certain background never come into contact with books, let alone read them, I have always believed that almost any book is better than no book.

  9. Time for Plan B, Nige. "The insipid Dahl isn't nearly nasty enough. How can you raise kids to be responsible if you don't terrify them nightly?"

  10. Well it was a blatant rant of course - but I'm amazed no one else has a bad word to say for Dahl and his works. Come on - Anybody?

  11. Well the Revolting Rhymes were, admittedly, a bit de trop.

  12. and the tales of the unexpected are riven with misogyny

    (I quickly re-read them last week for the first time in years and was struck by the fact that nearly ever story revolves around an unpleasant part of the female character)

  13. So wide is the gulf between your view of Dahl and most of the comments, mine included, that I briefly wandered through the Wiki Bio to check if I had missed something (war hero, naturalist, had the good sense to marry the exquisite Patricia Neal, treating her with proper respect after her many strokes), but most of that entry is warmly supportive. Could you be mixing him up with dhal, that revolting spicy stew from the dark incontinent? Start a rant about that blight and we'll all fall in behind you.

  14. I'm rather partial to dhal soup, that yellow stuff with a slice of lemon in it...

  15. Dahl famously advised Kingsley Amis to write for children as it was lucrative and the audience so gullible. With that degree of contempt for the readership,the attitudes that emerge in his children's fiction are perhaps not surprising.
    The Yard certainly identified the works of Dahl as a potential cause of selfishness and moral nihilism in youth, penning some years ago,if I remember rightly, a very good article entitled Dahl and the Promiscuous Girl.
    Like Blyton, Dahl had a tremendous narrative gift which can entrance children, but he has no morality or depth. It is important that children's literature isn't anodyne, and can address the dark sides of life as well as its goodness, beauty,joys and humour, but writers like, for example, Anne Fine or Michael Morpurgo, when dealing with the dark side of life, do justice to its complexity, and to the value of other human beings. Unlike these fine writers, Dahl never expands a child's understanding of the ambiguities of life, and seldom expands his or her empathy with others different from him or herself. There is little or no real irony or forgiveness in Dhal.

    Worm has commented upon Dahl's misogyny. This was at its most horrible combined with ageism in The Witches, where a a profound disgust for, and loathing of, old women was freely expressed in passages revelling in the description of the natural signs of physical decay in old women's bodies - bunions, moles, wrinkles etc. - and telling the child reader that any such old woman could well be a witch. Not really a good thing to suggest that one of the most vulnerable and powerless groups in life, so often the victims of neglect and violence, are themselve the natural source of evil. Nor to present old female bodies as inherently frightening and disgusting.
    The amoralty of Dahl's fiction for children is exemplified in The Magic Finger with its theme of joying in unreflecting vengeance, and it always surprised me that people weren't really shocked by the nastily inventive cruelties humorously inflicted on the other children in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
    Even a more innocuous production like Esio Trot implicitly advocates deception to get what you want.
    Dealing with the dark side of life is an entirely different matter from revelling in, and endorsing, the nastiest and most self-serving attitudes and behaviour towards others.
    Not all Dahl's books are vile of course, and a few have some genuine charm, but there is far too much unreflecting selfishness, cruelty, vindictiveness and misogyny in his writing for him to be a good thing, and there are so many truly wonderful books for children being missed out on every time a child picks up a Dahl.

  16. Phew - that's more like it! Thanks for that, Justathought - couldn't have put it better myself. Didn't. Welcome aboard!

  17. it always surprised me that people weren't really shocked by the nastily inventive cruelties humorously inflicted on the other children in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

    Those are the best bits!

  18. Brit is a very smart fellow, but he may not be the one you want to invite along to look for butterflies with you.

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